List Assignment in Scalar Context

It's documented to count the elements on the right in perlop (the last sentence in the Assignment Operators section):

Similarly, a list assignment in list context produces the list of lvalues assigned to, and a list assignment in scalar context returns the number of elements produced by the expression on the right hand side of the assignment.

The reason it works like that is so that you can write things like this:

while (my ($key, $value) = each %hash) { ... }

If it counted the number of elements on the left hand side of the assignment, that would be an infinite loop.

If you think about it, the number of elements on the left hand side is either the same as on the right hand side or it's a constant (when you're assigning to a list of scalars). In the first case, it makes no difference which side you count, and in the second case, counting the right hand side is more useful.

On the other hand, in list context the assignment operator returns the left hand list, because that's more useful. If you use it in a context that modifies the list elements, you want to modify the variables that were just assigned to.

Re: your comment In your example, (7,8) is a two-element list, which is why the assignment operator returns 2. When you assign a shorter list to a longer list of scalars, the right hand side is not "padded out" with undef before the assignment happens. Instead, any variables that did not have a value associated with them from the right hand list are reset to their default value. For a scalar variable, that's undef. For arrays, that's an empty array. For hashes, that's an empty hash.


Why does it evaluate the right hand side and produce 2, instead of the newly defined list being evaluated and returning 3?

Because that's what the language definition says it should do, because that's what Larry Wall decided it should do.

To me, it seems like $hello gets 7, $there gets 8, and $world gets undef, then that list is evaluated in scalar context

No, perl does not work that way. You're assuming that scalar context is just a conversion of the result that would have been obtained in list context to a scalar by counting the number of elements in the list result, but that's simply not right ... scalar context means that an operation (in this case assignment) should produce a scalar result, and there are often scalar results that are more useful than just the number of elements in the list context result, and that varies from operator to operator ... you have to check the documentation for what scalar produces; it's not uniform. For list assignment, the scalar value is the number of elements on the right side, because that's vastly more useful than the number of receivers, which is constant. e.g., if (($a, $b) = $s =~ /$re/) is true if the match produced results, as opposed to always being true because there are two receivers.

It seems weird to me that context affects which part of the evaluated expression is returned

There are far weirder things in perl. That feeling of weirdness comes from a mismatch between models ... in this case your expectation of orthogonality and your belief that "scalar context" is an operator on lists, vs. perl's pragmatic design and the reality that "scalar context" establishes a context which determines what result to produce. Note that you can write your own functions that produce completely different results depending on the context of the call.


It seems weird to me that context effects which side is evaluated:

It doesn't. Both sides (operands) of the list assignment operator evaluated, and whether the list assignment is evaluated in scalar context or list context does not affect the evaluation of the operands whatsoever.

Whether a list assignment is evaluated in scalar context or list context only affects the value it returns.

I have previously created Scalar vs List Assignment Operator, which attempts to make clear the differences between the two assignment operators and how they behave in scalar and list context.